Cyber šikaniranje

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Talenat u kombinaciji sa napornim radom!

mariopan me iznenadila ovim pitanjem skroz na skroz. ne znam šta da kažem osim da priče o tvom talentu kruže sajberspejsom i nemam pojma kako su zaobišle mariopan. mora da je bila negde u Grčkoj blizu neke mrtve zone kad se prvi put čulo o tvom neiscrpnom telentu.

bas me zanima kako ce da protece tvoje predavanje i kako ce na njega reagovati deca i zaposleni u skolama. ovde su pozvali i nas roditelje na projekciji filma koji sam pomenula u tekstu i naravno bice jos nekoliko termina kad se moze o tome raspravljati. sta mislis da li bi skole u Srbiji dozvolili da i roditelji prisustvuju ovakvoj vrsti edukacije?

Sto se tice roditelja polazis od pogresne pretpostavke da su oni zainteresovani da se time bave. Moje iskustvo govori suprotno, da je jedan veoma mali procenat roditelja zainteresovan da se time bavi i da preovladjuju u vecim gradovima i urbanim sredinama. (cast izuzecima).

ja ovo ne razumem. kako je moguce da se roditelj ne zanima za stanje u skoli u ovom veku kad se sve oko nas raspada? Ja moram da budem u toku sta se desava u skoli kod moje dece, jer je bilo vrlo neprijatnih situacija i to bas sa sikaniranjem - kombinacija cyber i licno. troje dece 5-ti razred su bili izbaceni iz skole zbog organizacije svega.

Tanja isto je i ovde a ne zivim u Nemackoj : )))
PTO (parent teacher organisation) ti je za neke cilj u zivotu bre, nema tu zahebancije. ja se nikad nisam muvala po tim organizacijama ali umem da volontiram u skoli kad treba.

baš si lepo ovo dočarala. ja sam priznajem mislila samo na one roditelje koji su u istoj ili sličnoj situaciji kao ja. eno i Tanja koja živi u Nemačkoj priča sličnu priču. meni je jasno sve ovo o čemu ti pričaš. ista je situacija i u Makedoniji, ako ne i gora.
da ti kažem pošteno nije ni kompjuter i ostale tehnologije za svakoga. vidiš šta sve urade monstrumi kad se dohvate istog?

pa naravno da ima takva vrsta ponasanja i medju odrasle. lakse je okomiti se na nekog putem cyber prostora nego licno. e-mail, chat i sva ostala sredstva elektronske komunikacije samo olaksavaju ovu vrstu sporta. sad na blogu dali ima, ne znam. mozda je na ovom blogu prisutno samo prepucavanje i iznosenje razlicitih stavova. ako neko ima uvid u situaciju neka obrazlozi.

MRNS nisam znala za ovaj slučaj, baš ti hvala. sad sam pronašla još dosta informacija o njoj. baš strašno.

mozda bi stvarno trebalo da se napise o njemu. marco ima prijatelja koji je drug Perelmana, tako da bi intervju sa prijateljem doprineo da prica bude malo licnija.

zanimljiv, ali je bolestan nazalost.

informacija koju imam (od ovih prijatelja) je da je u pitanju sizofrenija.

ps. nisam čitala post, sad ću...malo posle

aha, malo posle

Mene to negde strasno duboko pogadja i vrlo emotivno dozivljavam kad vidim maltretiranje slabijeg ili sam mu svedok, neki centar za ravnotezu se u meni tome onako iskonski opire i hitno zvoni na uzbunu.

tacno znam o cemu pricas.
hvala ti

i ja mislim da je strasno ali me malo ohrabrila cerka koja izgleda kao da je takve stvari ne zabrinjavaju mnogo. objasnila mi je sta se desilo u skoli i kako su se deca ponasala, ali na srecu ona nije bila jedna od zrtava. e sad sto je ona takva ne znaci da ja i marco treba da dignemo ruke i da se ne interesujemo o tome sta se desava u skoli.

sve se slazemo drugarice Mirela!

Lepo si definisao žrtve šikaniranja u pre sajber doba koristeći princip slabije gazele. ovo sajber šikaniranje se kao što znamo odvija putem najnovijih tehnologija koje su dostupne našoj deci. repetitivno, namerno, i neprijateljsko cyber ponašanje prema osobi ne mora da ima i tu komponentu o imbalansu snaga, t.j taj princip slabije gazele. znači da online snaga nije neophodna komponenta za "uspešno" šikaniranje. ali imajmo na umu da negativna online interakcija može biti lako terminirana - obrišeš e-mai, obrišeš sms, isključiš kompjuter i gotovo, što je prilično nemoguće bilo u vreme pre cyber šikaniranja jer nisi mogao pobeći tako lako iz školskog dvorišta gde te je čekala grupa gladnih vukova. ali posledice koje ostavlja ovo cyber šikaniranje se ne mogu tako lako uništiti. ostaje negde duboko u nama da se nešto desilo i da može da se desi i dok smo kući bezbedni.
mi još nismo kupili mobilni našoj ćerki. ne znam kad ćemo. ona ima e-mail i dobijala je neke e-mejlove koji su bili šikanirajuće sadržine, ali ona je za sreću ignorisala to i nije dala da je to pogodi. obrisala je mejl i rekla: I did not expect anything better from her. nadam se da će tako uvek.

Preneseno u današnji problem, to znači da mnoge žrtve neće "tek tako" da se isključe sa naloga, pokušaće da odgovaraju, da se bore, naravno najčešće neuspešno ali dovoljno istrajno da im posledica te borbe ostavi traume. Ovo pričam iz oči u oči iskustva iz detinjstva, ali bez sumnje važi i za sajber prostor, koji i nije drugo do "okupljanje ispred ulaza". Odatle se ne izostaje tako lako...

ovo si stvarno lepo rekao. evo jedan slučaj koji je završio tragično. majka jedne devojčice napravila je izmišljeni karakter na My Space-u - dečko od 16 godina, kako bi postala bliska sa drugaricom svoje ćerke i na taj način sazna šta sve ta devojčica priča o njenoj ćerki. nažalost sve je krenulo nizbrdo kad je majka (dečko) počeo da šalje ovoj nesrećnoj devojčici uvredljive poruke. ako imaš vremena pročitaj ceo članak.

Možemo samo da budemo što prisutniji (nenametljivo) i da se nadamo najboljem.

eto to je glavna stvar. oči širom otvorene, uši načuljene i nema frke.

Re ja mislim da je moja kuca lepse stekovana medju macama, zar ne?
mada nije losa ni ova tvoja lija, bolja je u svakom slucaju od ovog tipa

Biljo evo ti jedan link o ovom problemu.
Stop cyberbullying

Hate grupe koje postoje na Facebooku, Myspace-u, ili slicnim sajtovima su zaista veoma rasprostranjene gde se mogu naci fotografije zrtava cyber sikaniranja. Oni biraju najdeblje dete, najruznije dete, ostavljaju im se poruke na mobilnom ili u inboxu u stilu: Everybody hates you, you are a loser, you should just die!
Copy/Paste sledi sa sajta stopcyberbullying sta je direktni napad a sta je cyberbullying by proxy (kad nadju nekog drugog da radi prljavi posao za njih):

Direct Attacks

1. Instant Messaging/Text Messaging Harassment [Learn More...]
2. Stealing Passwords [Learn More...]
3. Blogs [Learn More...]
4. Web Sites [Learn More...]
5. Sending Pictures through E-mail and Cell Phones [Learn More...]
6. Internet Polling [Learn More...]
7. Interactive Gaming [Learn More...]
8. Sending Malicious Code [Learn More...]
9. Sending Porn and Other Junk E-Mail and IMs [Learn More...]
10. Impersonation [Learn More...]

1. Instant Messaging/Text Messaging Harassment
a) Kids may send hateful or threatening messages to other kids, without realizing that while not said in real life, unkind or threatening messages are hurtful and very serious.

b) Warning wars - Many Internet Service Providers offer a way of "telling on" a user who is saying inappropriate things. Kids often engage in "warning wars" which can lead to kicking someone offline for a period of time. While this should be a security tool, kids sometimes use the Warn button as a game or prank.

c) A kid/teen may create a screenname that is very similar to another kid's name. The name may have an additional "i" or one less "e". They may use this name to say inappropriate things to other users while posing as the other person.

d) Text wars or text attacks are when kids gang up on the victim, sending thousands of text-messages to the victims cell phone or other mobile device. The victim is then faced with a huge cell phone bill and angry parents.

e) Kids send death threats using IM and text-messaging as well as photos/videos (see below)



2. Stealing passwords
a) A kid may steal another child's password and begin to chat with other people, pretending to be the other kid. He/she may say mean things that offend and anger this person's friends or even strangers. Meanwhile, they won't know it is not really that person they are talking to.

b) A kid may also use another kid's password to change his/her profile to include sexual, racist, and inappropriate things that may attract unwanted attention or offend people.

c) A kid often steals the password and locks the victim out of their own account.

d) Once the password is stolen, hackers may use it to hack into the victim's computer.



3. Blogs
Blogs are online journals. They are a fun way for kids and teens to messages for all of their friends to see. However, kids sometimes use these blogs to damage other kids' reputations or invade their privacy. For example, in one case, a boy posted a bunch of blogs about his breakup with his ex-girlfriend, explaining how she destroyed his life, calling her degrading names. Their mutual friends read about this and criticized her. She was embarrassed and hurt all because another kid posted mean, private, and false information about her. Sometimes kids set up a blog or profile page pretending to be their victim and saying things designed to humiliate them.


4. Web sites
a) Children used to tease each other in the playground; now they do it on Web sites. Kids sometimes create Web sites that may insult or endanger another child. They create pages specifically designed to insult another kid or group of people.

b) Kids also post other kids' personal information and pictures, which put those people at a greater risk of being contacted or found.


5. Sending Pictures through E-mail and Cell Phones
a) There have been cases of teens sending mass e-mails to other users, that include nude or degrading pictures of other teens. Once an e-mail like this is sent, it is passed around to hundreds of other people within hours; there is no way of controlling where it goes.

b) Many of the newer cell phones allow kids to send pictures to each other. The kids receive the pictures directly on their phones, and may send it to everyone in their address books. After viewing the picture at a Web site, some kids have actually posted these often pornographic pictures on Kazaa and other programs for anyone to download.

c) Kids often take a picture of someone in a locker room, bathroom or dressing room and post it online or send it to others on cell phones.


6. Internet Polling
Who's Hot? Who's Not? Who is the biggest slut in the sixth grade? These types of questions run rampant on the Internet polls, all created by yours truly - kids and teens. Such questions are often very offensive to others and are yet another way that kids can "bully" other kids online.



7. Interactive Gaming
Many kids today are playing interactive games on gaming devices such as X-Box Live and Sony Play Station 2 Network. These gaming devices allow your child to communicate by chat and live Internet phone with anyone they find themselves matched with in a game online. Sometimes the kids verbally abuse the other kids, using threats and lewd language. Sometimes they take it further, by locking them out of games, passing false rumors about them or hacking into their accounts.



8. Sending Malicious Code
Many kids will send viruses, spyware and hacking programs to their victims. They do this to either destroy their computers or spy on their victim. Trojan Horse programs allow the cyberbully to control their victim's computer remote control, and can be used to erase the hard drive of the victim.



9. Sending Porn and Other Junk E-Mail and IMs
Often cyberbullies will sign their victims up for e-mailing and IM marketing lists, lots of them, especially to porn sites. When the victim receives thousands of e-mails from pornographers their parents usually get involved, either blaming them (assuming they have been visiting porn sites) or making them change their e-mail or IM address.



10. Impersonation
Posing as the victim, the cyberbully can do considerable damage . They may post a provocative message in a hate group's chatroom posing as the victim, inviting an attack against the victim, often giving the name, address and telephone number of the victim to make the hate group's job easier. They often also send a message to someone posing as the victim, saying hateful or threatening things while masquerading as the victim. They may also alter a message really from the victim, making it appear that they have said nasty things or shared secrets with others.


Cyberbullying by proxy

Cyberbullying by proxy is when a cyberbully gets someone else to do their dirty work. Most of the time they are unwitting accomplices and don't know that they are being used by the cyberbully. Cyberbullying by proxy is the most dangerous kind of cyberbullying because it often gets adults involve in the harassment and people who don't know they are dealing with a kid or someone they know.

"Warning" or "Notify Wars" are an example of cyberbullying by proxy. Kids click on the warning or notify buttons on their IM screen or e-mail or chat screens, and alert the ISP or service provider that the victim has done something that violates their rules.If the victim receives enough warnings or notifications, they can lose their account. The service providers are aware of this abuse, and often check and see if the warning were justified. But all the cyberbully has to do is make the victim angry enough to say something rude or hateful back. Then, BINGO! they warn them, making it look like the victim had started it. In this case, the ISP or service provider is the innocent accomplice of the cyberbully.

Sometimes the victim's own parents are too. If the cyberbully can make it look like the victim is doing something wrong, and the parents are notified, the parents will punish the victim. Alyssa, one of our Teenangels, had this happen to her. To learn more about her cyberbullying problem, read Alyssa's story.

Cyberbullying by proxy sometimes starts with the cyberbully posing as the victim. They may have hacked into their account or stolen their password. They may have set up a new account pretending to be the victim. But however they do it, they are pretending to be the victim and trying to create problems for the victim with the help of others.

The most typical way a cyberbullying by proxy attack occurs is when the cyberbully gets control of the victim's account and sends out hateful or rude messages to everyone on their buddy list pretending to be the victim. They may also change the victim's password so they can't get into their own account. The victim's friends get angry with the victim, thinking they had sent the messages without knowing they have been used by the cyberbully. But it's not always this minor. Sometimes the cyberbully tries to get more people involved.

For example...Mary wants to get Jennifer back for not inviting her to her party. She goes online and, posing as Jennifer, posts "I hate Brittany, she is so stupid, ugly and fat!" on buddyprofile.com. Mary may tell Brittany and her friends that she read the post on buddyprofile.com and blames Jennifer for being mean. Brittany and her friends now start attacking Jennifer, and may report her to buddyprofile.com or her school. They are doing Mary's dirty work for her. Mary looks like the "good guy" and Jennifer may be punished by her parents, lose her account with buddyprofile.com and get into trouble at school. And Brittany and her friends may start to cyberbully Jennifer too.

Sometimes it is much more serious than that. When cyberbullies want to get others to do their dirty work quickly, they often post information about, or pose as, their victim in hate group chat rooms and on their discussion boards. Cyberbullies have even posted this information in child molester chat rooms and discussion boards, advertising their victim for sex. They then sit back and wait for the members of that hate group or child molester group to attack or contact the victim online and, sometimes, offline.

For this to work, the cyberbully needs to post offline or online contact information about the victim. Real information, not the account they used to impersonate the victim (if they are posing as the victim to provoke an attack). For example...Jack is angry that Blake was chose as captain of the junior varsity basketball team. Blake is black. Jack finds a white supremist group online and posts in their chat room that Blake said nasty things about whites and their group in particular. He then posts Blake's cell phone number and screen name. People from the group start calling and IMing Blake with threats and hateful messages. Jack has no idea how much danger he has placed Blake in, and Blake doesn't know why he in under attack. In cases of cyberbullying by proxy, when hate or child molester groups are involved, they victim is in danger of physical harm and law enforcement must be contacted immediately.

Can you think of examples of cyberbullying by proxy? Share them with us and other kids, preteens and teens here at the site. We'll never use your name or personally identifying information, share it with others or bother you. Read our privacy policy to know how we use your information. You should always read a privacy policy before submitting anything to anywhere online.

Iris moramo da smo u toku, bre vidis ova tehnologija sta nam radi bogtemazo!
sad sam pricala sa koleginicom i razmenile iskustva iz skole, deca nam idu u istu skolu. ona kaze da nije ni razmisljala koliko to moze da bude opasno. verujem da ima puno takvih ljudi. ali nikad nije kasno da se malo uputimo u cyber svet i pokusamo da ga kontrolisemo onoliko koliko je dovoljno da zastitimo svoje najmilije.

scabies pa postoji i cyber šminkanje, zar ne misliš tako? svi se lepo našminkamo i krenemo u cyber komunikaciju.