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Novak the Magnificent?

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Let it come to no one as a surprise: Novak Djokovic did NOT walk on the moon.

Nor did he cure tuberculosis, invent the wheel, pave the Information Superhighway, or single-handedly create the heavens and the earth in six days. To my knowledge (and I could be wrong), Mr. Djokovic was not responsible for the breaking down of Apartheid, the lifting of the Iron Curtain, or the forging of lasting peace in the Middle East.

He may, of course, have assassinated Bin Laden. No one knows quite WHAT happened there...

If you look at Belgrade over the last couple of days, however, you may come to wonder what he actually did do. He has been welcomed home from London as a hero, a national icon, someone of whom statues will surely be erected somewhere in Serbia, someone about whom elegies will be versified. The president, usurping as much of the spotlight as the cameras would allow, calls him a role model for youth of Serbia.

(If I had a hat, I might remove it at this point.)

As it turns out, he won a lot of tennis. Tennis is a sport. A game, if you will. Certainly, it must be hard to win in a game which pits a lot of very good players against a lot of other very good players. I surely could not have done it, as any of my tennis partners would aver.

Moreover, many of the youth of Serbia to whom Novak the Super-Duper is a role model could not have done so either. This is notably, or so I am told, because the state does not allocate a lot of funds for individual sports such as tennis. We pay for basketball and football. Even water polo, I guess. In this way, I suppose the president is right: he is an example of how no one will help you until you are the world's number one and then they will try to take credit for it.

But let's be happy for Novak. After all, he did win. And he is the world number one for the moment. And let's be happy for ourselves too, since we live in the same country as he does. That must confer a little greatness on Serbia and, by extension, on the rest of us who live here.

After all, had he lost, he would have skulked into Nikola Tesla without fanfare, and it might have been just another Monday night in Belgrade. No kudos for second place here. Number Two is just number two.

I am aware that I shall not be making myself a lot of friends in my adopted homeland by nay-saying the apotheosis of Novak Djokovic. But, really, enough already. No conversation in these last days has strayed far from his name. None will be clear of Novaks and Noles for at least a couple of weeks. And God help us all if he maintains the pace through Flushing Meadows.

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.

No, I said. It is not.

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kick68 23:54 04.07.2011

abnormalities

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.

No, I said. It is not.

Examlpes of (sport) abnormalities all over the world
World went crazy (abnormal?), or just Serbia?

Chris Farmer 00:02 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

kick68
Examlpes of (sport) abnormalities all over the world
World went crazy (abnormal?), or just Serbia?

The World. Sadly yes.

What does it say about our species that an activity meant as recreation should take on such extremes of emotional involvement?

I will stick to backgammon, thanks.

Atomski mrav 01:34 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

I will stick to backgammon, thanks.

Well, if you are indeed a backgammon type of guy, then you're not supposed to understand any of this.
I don't know, if I belonged to a nation who put a man on the moon (supposedly), maybe I wouldn't pay much attention on who won "a lot of tennis lately". But, for us in Serbia, this is something really big and important! Did we overdo it with the celebrations - yes, we did. But, you should have noticed by now that we are an "overdoing" nation, and we're not the only ones in the world...

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.

No, I said. It is not.

Leslie Nielsen as agent Dick Steele in "Spy hard":

"Crazy? Some people think walking down the street muttering to yourself is crazy. I'll tell you what crazy is: Crazy is walking down the street with half a cantaloupe on your head, saying: "I'm a hamster. I'm a hamster." That's crazy."

maca22 09:58 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

Atomski mrav
But, for us in Serbia, this is something really big and important!

Speak for yourself, please.
If it hadn't been for this blog, I wouldn't even know someone from my country had won something.

ivon.i 12:06 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

maca22
10:58 05.07.2011
Re: abnormalities
Atomski mrav
But, for us in Serbia, this is something really big and important!

Speak for yourself, please.
If it hadn't been for this blog, I wouldn't even know someone from my country had won something.

Iz murtenice ste or what ?!

maca22 12:08 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

I have life.

ivon.i 12:35 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

baš se vidi, samo sto komentara ovde..

skener92 12:40 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

maca22
I have life.

pa bas se i ne bi reklo, ceo dan visis ovde na blogu!

alselone 12:42 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

skener92

pa bas se i ne bi reklo, ceo dan visis ovde na blogu!

Zavrsila je megatrend i pali po blogu.

maca22 12:58 05.07.2011

Re: abnormalities

Luckily, I didn't bomb Hirosima.

angie01 15:32 05.07.2011

the moon is watching Djokovic!

ivana23 00:52 10.07.2011

***

I wrote the above after the Ladies’ Final – this final paragraph is written shortly after the end of the Gentlemen’s Final between Rafael Nadal and Novak Djoković, which ended as I had wished and hoped, but not, I have to admit, as I had fully expected and when he lost the third set 1-6 after having won the first two 6-4 and 6-1, I began to think that the end was nigh. However, Novak showed what he has shown before, that he is a great fighter-back and succeeded in turning the tables just when it was necessary, and then keeping his cool and concentration until the very end. A magnificent champion, a wonderful person and a great ambassador for his country. I wish him a long reign as No. 1!!

TJB

maca22 01:19 10.07.2011

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ivana23 00:03 05.07.2011

***

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.

No, I said. It is not.

4 July 2011 - BBC

A group of English tennis fans who could not get tickets to Wimbledon have been celebrating in Serbia after Novak Djokovic beat Spain's Rafa Nadal in the mens' singles final.

The streets of the capital, Belgrade, were virtually deserted during the battle between the world's top two players, with the UK Djokovic supporters wearing all-white to imitate the traditional Wimbledon kit.

Serbian fans also spoke of their joy at Djokovic's win.

Fans celebrate Djokovic Wimbledon win in Belgrade - VIDEO

ivon.i 00:08 05.07.2011

only..

very, very bitter person could write this !
no, you do not know - after so many years here - not only our language, you do not understand our people.
key question is : what really is keeping you here.

of course, no need to answer to me.
you are - also - free to erase my comment.

sorry to read your blog, sorry to write this..

Chris Farmer 00:34 05.07.2011

Re: only..

Of course I would not erase your comment. I should be very afraid if everyone agreed with me... I am even shocked when ANYONE does.

Do I really have to pack up and go because I hate the Nole-hype?

golubica.bg 00:41 05.07.2011

Re: only..

I'm afraid you misunderstood this text completely. There is no bitterness in it, just plain common sense. And Serbia could certainly use some.

What is there to understand? That the people in Serbia identify with Novak's victories? That they see it as a great Serbian success as well as their own, thus trying to make up for a generally difficult life in Serbia? Of course it is ok to be happy about Novak, but this kind of national hysteria supported by the leading politicians is not only over the top, but also completely distasteful.

It is easy to say that Chris is a foreigner so he "doesn't understand". Well, I was born in Serbia, and I can't understand it any more than he can...

bluestar 00:54 05.07.2011

Re: only..

ivon.i
key question is : what really is keeping you here.

kick68 01:00 05.07.2011

Re: only..

Do I really have to pack up and go because I hate the Nole-hype?

Nope. Just suck it up.

Jelena Pavlović 03:42 05.07.2011

Re: only..

ivon.i
very, very bitter person could write this !
no, you do not know - after so many years here - not only our language, you do not understand our people.
key question is : what really is keeping you here.

of course, no need to answer to me.
you are - also - free to erase my comment.

sorry to read your blog, sorry to write this..

I know the language, but I don't understand our people either.

4krofnica 08:21 05.07.2011

Re: only..

sorry to write this.

oh poor thing, you must be devastated.
(have you already recovered from your Great Thought that V.Petrovic is illiterate?)
well, think again .. next time.

excellent text Chris.
however, I'm glad for Djokovic.
he fulfilled his dream.

maca22 10:02 05.07.2011

Re: only..

ivon.i
very, very bitter person could write this !
no, you do not know - after so many years here - not only our language, you do not understand our people.
key question is : what really is keeping you here.

of course, no need to answer to me.
you are - also - free to erase my comment.

sorry to read your blog, sorry to write this..

The bitterness is with you.

ivon.i 10:21 05.07.2011

Re: only..

Chris Farmer
Of course I would not erase your comment. I should be very afraid if everyone agreed with me... I am even shocked when ANYONE does.

Do I really have to pack up and go because I hate the Nole-hype?

It is Serb-hype and it is utterly your decision !!
On the other hand, you can see how many admires you got here.
Women !! Hating me, they love you, a bit Nole too..
Stupidity is endless.
So, dear ladies & some gentlemen : Chris is all yours.

p.s.

..and they live happily ever after, thinking & feeling the same..
( now i am crying, but as soon as my tears are gone, be back )

saboter 02:40 06.07.2011

Re: only..

It is hard to listen CNN saying something good about Serbia :) Do not worry, it's an short exception.

Chris Farmer
Of course I would not erase your comment. I should be very afraid if everyone agreed with me... I am even shocked when ANYONE does.

I understand your shock, it is hard to agree with nothing special.

And I understand your shock with "people riding on the top of their cars", you probably prefer this kind of fun:

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skener92 00:10 05.07.2011

.

who's talking? henman hill?

like we care!

edit: 'envy eats nothing but its own heart' - german proverb

i've just seen you are an american!!!

anyway, 'like we care'.

Chris Farmer 00:56 05.07.2011

Re: .

skener92
who's talking? henman hill?

like we care!

edit: 'envy eats nothing but its own heart' - german proverb

i've just seen you are an american!!! anyway, 'like we care'.

I think I've just been emoticoned to death. Thanks for the new experience.

skener92 12:15 05.07.2011

Re: .

Chris Farmer
skener92
who's talking? henman hill?

like we care!

edit: 'envy eats nothing but its own heart' - german proverb

i've just seen you are an american!!! anyway, 'like we care'.

I think I've just been emoticoned to death. Thanks for the new experience.

you are welcome! anytime! abusive sarcasm, rudeness, but ... like i care! take it easy, baby! have a nice day!

edit: typo

fantomatsicna 00:22 05.07.2011

I see

it this way.People in Serbia are having so much shit to deal with and not only from within,so I think they are happy to escape in this euphoria for a short time.

srdjan.pajic 01:26 05.07.2011

Re: I see

fantomatsicna
it this way.People in Serbia are having so much shit to deal with and not only from within,so I think they are happy to escape in this euphoria for a short time.

Hmmm, that sounds like description of a junkie.

fantomatsicna 06:35 05.07.2011

Re: I see

Hmmm, that sounds like description of a junkie

Yeah life can be a drug:)

blogovatelj 13:09 05.07.2011

Re: I see

Hmmm, that sounds like description of a junkie.

Hmmm, this looks like prescription for a junkie

mlekac 02:06 05.07.2011

Small remark,

Chris, you are missing a point.

People here are so fed-up with problems and troubles, of hard life, and so hungry for ANYTHING nice which will give them opportunity to celebrate, that this kind of reaction to Novak it's absolutely normal.

I was on a highway today, with my youngest, and I can tell you, it WAS bit of overwhelming to see all those people, young and old, finally happy, finally smiling...

Maybe Novak's victory is not such a big thing, but, frankly, in this country, there are so few reasons to smile this days.

Don't worry, it will pass. Too soon.

,

maca22 12:30 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

Miss Mleki, I had to post this. :)

mlekac 12:51 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

maca22

Miss Mleki, I had to post this. :)

I've saw it, Mma Katse, I've saw it. But I'm still on my starting position - these people needed something to cheer them. I don't care what it is, I'm just glad that they had few minutes of happiness.

maca22 13:00 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

Well, that might explain all that sobbing and personal insults when someone pokes on their hero. :)

mlekac 13:02 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

maca22
Well, that might explain all that sobbing and personal insults when someone pokes on their hero. :)

Just leave people in peace...

As I've said, it WILL pass. Too soon...

Milan Novković 13:47 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

Miss Mleki, I had to post this

Of course you did, that was a rational thing to do

(smajli na smajli, zezamo se :)

maca22 13:52 05.07.2011

Re: Small remark,

But it's hardly delusional, so the comparison and the joke is off.

gorran2 02:55 05.07.2011

We won! I didn't.

Very nice piece of text.
As usual.
About Nole and Serbia?
People here are not accustomed to live their own lives.
So they live through their representatives.
It is the fastest way to be someone and mean something.
I suppose.
Maybe I want to be someone, too.
But still I'd rather be myself.
Even for the price of not winning the Wimbledon like everyone else.

Covek u belom 03:18 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

Sour grapes

Dejan Ninkovic 04:02 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

gorran2
Very nice piece of text.
As usual.
About Nole and Serbia?
People here are not accustomed to live their own lives.
So they live through their representatives.
It is the fastest way to be someone and mean something.
I suppose.
Maybe I want to be someone, too.
But still I'd rather be myself.
Even for the price of not winning the Wimbledon like everyone else.

Poor english and you come off as a loser LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:)

gorran2 04:06 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

I really enjoyed watching Novak win the tournament. And I was very pleased with his modest, decent manner of dealing with the great success.
Hurray for Nole!
But I am not feeling that as my own accomplishment, my own success.
I am exactly what I was before.
I can enjoy, but I can't participate in his success.
It is all his.

gorran2 04:13 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

Poor english

and you come off as a loser LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:)

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I didn't win...
Anything

Filip2412 04:57 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

But I am not feeling that as my own accomplishment, my own success.

and that is your deadly sin

tyson 05:25 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

But I am not feeling that as my own accomplishment, my own success.

I don't think anyone is.

C'mon people, it's the sports we're talking about here. People used to be this euphoric since the first Olympics a few thousand years ago. Why? How come? Psychologists and a bunch of other scientists (and "scientists"

are trying to find answers to these questions for quite some time.

Until they do, I guess common people will continue doing what they are doing all around the world, acting silly and sometimes, unfortunately, even dangerous.

maca22 10:07 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

tyson
But I am not feeling that as my own accomplishment, my own success.

I don't think anyone is.

C'mon people, it's the sports we're talking about here. People used to be this euphoric since the first Olympics a few thousand years ago. Why? How come? Psychologists and a bunch of other scientists (and "scientists" are trying to find answers to these questions for quite some time.

But they have the answer. Mostly people see someone else's achievements as their own.

Other-s are simply delusional. You could read on blogs here that Novak is the best ambassador Serbia has ever had in it's history. Someone claimed that his victories are filling the country's budget.

tyson 10:32 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

Mostly people feel someone else's achievements as their own.

I don't know; I don't think so. Sports fans just feel the way they feel for some probably more complex reason. Part of it might be what you said, but I think only to some extent. The rest is a strange mix of other psycho things

Other-s are simply delusional. You could read on blogs here that Novak is the best ambassador Serbia has ever had in it's history. Someone claimed that his victories are filling the country's budget.

No, no. That's the euphoria

With most of them it'll be back to normal soon, when the mass hysteria petters out

maca22 11:03 05.07.2011

Re: We won! I didn't.

Then there are baby-people who think that we, Serbs, will somehow become respected by the entity called The World because a Serb won in Wimbledon. In similar opinion we could achieve the same respect and prosperity if we put a man who attended British royal wedding to the throne.

Filip2412 04:51 05.07.2011

Good point Chris

I love tennis and Novak made an amazing contribution to the sport. Many people think that with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic these are the best times in tennis ever. Those three look like the best in tennis ever and Novak dominates. 5:0 to Nadal in the season, what's more to say... and I keep talking about Wimbledon with friends who follow tennis because I'm truly impressed with Novak.

However, it's just tennis, just a game so this nation wide hype is ridiculous and silly. It's irritating to hear how people inflate the national importance of this title. Yeah, we live in great times for tennis fans but that's all.

I will never forget how soon after Red Star became champion of Europe black days came for Serbia - so much about link between success in sport and prosperity of a country.

tyson 05:55 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

However, it's just tennis, just a game so this nation wide hype is ridiculous and silly. It's irritating to hear how people inflate the national importance of this title. Yeah, we live in great times for tennis fans but that's all.

Dude, it's been like that since forever, and it will be.

You people are simply paying too much attention to it and see it bigger than it is.

Like with every sports euphoria, at least in Serbia, it lasts just a few days and then people continue being their usual grumpy, gloomy, disillusioned selves

so patience, patience...

njanja_de.manccini 14:26 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

tyson
However, it's just tennis, just a game so this nation wide hype is ridiculous and silly. It's irritating to hear how people inflate the national importance of this title. Yeah, we live in great times for tennis fans but that's all.

Dude, it's been like that since forever, and it will be.

You people are simply paying too much attention to it and see it bigger than it is.

Like with every sports euphoria, at least in Serbia, it lasts just a few days and then people continue being their usual grumpy, gloomy, disillusioned selves so patience, patience...

C'mon people, it's the sports we're talking about here. People used to be this euphoric since the first Olympics a few thousand years ago. Why? How come? Psychologists and a bunch of other scientists (and "scientists" are trying to find answers to these questions for quite some time.

Until they do, I guess common people will continue doing what they are doing all around the world, acting silly and sometimes, unfortunately, even dangerous.

You are the only one making sense here. No comment on the rest, including Mr Farmer's post.

Filip2412 14:58 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

You people are simply paying too much attention to it and see it bigger than it is.

Maybe, or even when paying a little attention I cannot help noticing how silly it is. Jumping and celebrating after the match yeah, I can understand that, but having a parade a few days after with politicians drooling all over and some people thinking that well, now we Serbs showed them all... well, that's just sad and ridiculous (less horrible than Royal Wedding though)

Thant thing in Dallas, good thing I do not follow NBA so didn't even hear about it.

njanja_de.manccini 15:09 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

Thant thing in Dallas, good thing I do not follow NBA so didn't even hear about it.

pa jbm mu misa sta ti gledas od sporta????
ne gledas tenis, ne gledas NBA, a ovamo sudis samo tako ...
Filipe moramo da te navucemo na neki sport, ne vidim drugu opciju na putu ka tvom ociscenju i prosvetlenju : ))))

mlekac 16:06 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

njanja_de.manccini
Thant thing in Dallas, good thing I do not follow NBA so didn't even hear about it.

pa jbm mu misa sta ti gledas od sporta????
ne gledas tenis, ne gledas NBA, a ovamo sudis samo tako ...
Filipe moramo da te navucemo na neki sport, ne vidim drugu opciju na putu ka tvom ociscenju i prosvetlenju : ))))

Mozda jahanje bikova, njanjo?

Gledala sam u Walkeru, teksaskom rendzeru, kazu da je to u Teksasu vrlo popularan sport? Je li tacno?

Filip2412 16:52 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

njanja pratim samo tenis, a od prosle godine idem da gledam la crosee

publika je mnogo bolja, poiju vise piva nego NBA & Hokej fanovi zajedno

a tenis igram redovno poceo kao mali, samo sto sam sad na pauzi zbog radova na kolenu...

Ma ja jos pricam o tenisu sinoc sam 2 sata razglabao sa komsijom koji je kanadjanin/amerikanac i radi kao tennis coach. Ja se lozim na tenis skroz.

Ono, ok mi je da ludujes posle utakmice ali kad vidim to docekivanje osecam se isto ko da gledam izvestaj sa kraljevskog vencanja.

Milan Novković 17:23 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

Ono, ok mi je da ludujes posle utakmice ali kad vidim to docekivanje osecam se isto ko da gledam izvestaj sa kraljevskog vencanja.

Pa kad dobiješ nešto, kao mi sad No1e-ta, možeš kao i sa većinom drugih stvari koje dobiješ:

- Da uživaš u tome

- Da koristiš kao oružje

- Da baciš

- Da pokloniš

- Da staviš u slamaricu

- Da daš investicionim bankarima da ti obrću

Sama euforija pokazuje koliku to ima vrednost i zašto:

- Ogromnoj većini nas je lepo što je on uspeo

- Zaboravljamo na komšijske krave na neko vreme (uspeh nas zbližava, vidimo ga kao zajednički i sviđanam se to)

- Dobijamo neki novi elan, entuzijazam, možda zavrnemo rukave i završimo i sami nešto što smo davno počeli

- Klinci imaju uzor - prost obrazac: rad --> uspeh. I imaju ga po "zdravom protokolu", po uzoru na nekog kome ne zavide.

Itd, svi dočekuju izuzetne sportiste - kad budemo imali sedmog tenisera broj jedan u svetu opašće, adekvatno, i euforija pri svakom novom dočeku

Političari, ok, čak možemo i da ih ne primećujemo neko vreme, oni rade svoj "biznis", bar su ovde deseta rupa na svirali.

maksa83 17:53 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

Filipe moramo da te navucemo na neki sport,

Nek' počne sa ženskom odbojkom na pesku.

Zanimljivo i dinamično, pri čemu ne moraš da znaš pravila da bi uživao.

njanja_de.manccini 20:46 05.07.2011

Re: Good point Chris

maksa83
Filipe moramo da te navucemo na neki sport,

Nek' počne sa ženskom odbojkom na pesku.

Zanimljivo i dinamično, pri čemu ne moraš da znaš pravila da bi uživao.

jesi gledao žensko finale sad u nedelju?
one brazilke razbile amerikanke samo tako
bilo jako lepo za gledanje zaista : ))))
jedino one trake na ramenu koje je imala jedna od amerikanki mi malo odvlacile paznju. za sve drugo nemamo primedbe ni ja ni muž : )))

maksa83 05:36 05.07.2011

cojones

Gutsy text, my hat is off to you sir.

snezana mihajlovic 06:00 05.07.2011

Re: cojones

Gutsy text, my hat is off to you sir.

the same goes for your comment.

however, it seems that whenever a man has a tendency to speak his mind, someone wants him to pack it up, or suck it up.

i totally, absolutely adore seeing (reading) something along the lines of:
novak is a true serb, which only means that i also totally and what's more, absolutely adored seeing the magnificent spectacle, or people making a spectacle out of themselves last night...

Even water polo, I guess.

you gotta know (love) chris and his ways.
:)

p.s.
sometimes it only takes a little effort - one letter at a time. and who knows? maybe it won't be difficult to understand, after all.

No kudos for second place here

jovanenad 06:05 05.07.2011

sarme

Well neither did Cassius Clay or Primo Carnera(land on the Moon)but are we to neglect their historical value and say they were just boxers. Well they were not, they were a lot more.They were an example of struggle for breed freedom and equality. After Carnera became champion in 1934 people in USA stooped to look at Italians just as thieves and tugs. And for Cassius, well his second name says it all. I guess that what some people in Serbia wont. Some kind of champion to represent them for World to see that we are not just "genocidal" maniacs. Someone with a reputation of a superstar and a Serbian background...But its wrong, its wrong what sport has become its wrong how media all over the world is manipulating with human emotions it's sad to see that 200 yrs after enlighten age we(all over the world) are still a mindless cattle ready to obey and to serve and to glorify WHAT, hitting a ball makes u a hero?!? I will probably never get it, when I start to criticize modern sport here in Serbia I get remarks like:"U never played anything haven't u?"(but i have, 5 different disciplines i fact). I guess that what modern sport is and what arena sport were just another panem et circumcises. And although I agree with you in most of your statements it's not just Serbia you should worry about it's the whole World I'm afraid.
PS. there are a lot of us personally dislike Joker in Serbia so you don't have to pack your bags as for exaggerating well like someone already sad that is who we are and personally u should get used to it. Without that kind of attitude there would be so many "good" traits in us and I hope u have seen them. Unfortunately you can't have one without the other.

maksa83 06:46 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

panem et circumcises

'Leba i obrezivanja.

Kukumajko...

tyson 08:00 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

panem et circumcises

Panem is tasty but circumcises are ouch!

jovanenad 09:14 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

My Latin is a bit rusty(as for English well I was in a hurry

)

but it turn out to be better than I have expected.

Covek u belom 09:24 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

jovanenad
PS. there are a lot of us personally dislike Joker in Serbia so you don't have to pack your bags as for exaggerating well like someone already sad that is who we are and personally u should get used to it. Without that kind of attitude there would be so many "good" traits in us and I hope u have seen them. Unfortunately you can't have one without the other.

Sure there are. You all work hard and earn your bread on making Serbia looking miserable and then comes a guy who with one swing of his racquet erases all your efforts and leaves your employes and finally you without hard earned finances...
I would also hate him in your shoes. Luckily enough I don't feed my kids by selling bullshit about my country, nor I pathologically hate it...

jovanenad 10:14 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

Serbs do work hard, when we are paid for it

. I'm sorry if not cheering for Novak makes me a traitor. But there it is I just don't like him maybe because hi has a bad attitude maybe because of his forehand, maybe becose I have worked on two projects during Serbia Open 2010 and had vary bad experience with the management, maybe because I have been Federer fan for so many years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRo72MUUZnE

Maybe because individuals are not representatives of our country or our people and they are praised more then their deserve while politicians cheer with them and at same time they recognize Kosovo IDs and every day we are deeper and deeper in... maybe because there are so many talented artist, scientist, poets and hard working people who deserve praise more and they don't get even a page in newspaper but when someone is NO1 at hitting ball over the he is a God? Ok hes the best so W.T.F. he will give some money to the charity and spend 5 times more on industry that pollutes same air that those orphans that he helped breathe. An people that his family put to work will be treated like slaves and reminded every day that almighty Djokovic family gave them breed(believe me i have seen that poor people) I obviously love my Serbia more then you do because I can not rest or cheer while there are so many in Serbia who can't buy toys for their kids. If we could eat and prosper from sport we would enjoy '90 wouldn't we. I remember how much i cheered 2002 when we won in basketball. But till what end? We need heroes and we need someone to be inspired. But my friend you are looking at the wrong direction. Heroes don't climb the mountain and shout :"LOOK AT ME AM THE BEST"
I am sorry but Novak victory was his own this nation this country had nothing to do with it. Having a bath in his victory is self delusion and that is a pathological condition.

ivon.i 10:37 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

Kukumajko...

..kad se Novak ( jutro posle ) gleda i osporava iz političkog ugla..

Covek u belom 12:24 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

jovanenad
I am sorry but Novak victory was his own this nation this country had nothing to do with it. Having a bath in his victory is self delusion and that is a pathological condition.

Not everyone is materialistic. Some ppl can and like to be happy (at least for the moment) even though they are poor and don't have "great" life. Novak can obviously bring them that and you can't take them that away despite all your venom.
Pathological condition is to hate your neighbor for his success and to hate when other ppl are happy just coz you're miserable. 'Nough said...

jovanenad 18:13 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

Sir I hope you enjoy Novaks victory since you obviously lack your own. I never said I hate Novak or his victory or people that celebrate it I just said I choose not to(for that and that reason)celebrate(every creature with one brain cell would understand that). So please don't lead the witness or put false words in my mouth it's very rude and misleading but it is alright if that makes you feel better about yourself. But bitter man see evil even where there is none. I can't take Novaks victory from anyone because it is nonexistent it is an illusion but I am a Satan why listen to me right. An you think you have a right to judge me because one text I wrote for fun? and call my words venom(my God I must have really hurt you are you his uncle?I'm so so sorry don't cry please) You sir are obliviously having serious problems since Novaks victory is the best thing that happened to you lately(I wonder did you even know what tennis is before him?)
P.S. In the future learn to communicate trough dialogue not trough insults and false accusations you might learn something.

Covek u belom 18:59 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

jovanenad
Sir I hope you enjoy Novaks victory since you obviously lack your own. I never said I hate Novak or his victory or people that celebrate it I just said I choose not to(for that and that reason)celebrate(every creature with one brain cell would understand that). So please don't lead the witness or put false words in my mouth it's very rude and misleading but it is alright if that makes you feel better about yourself. But bitter man see evil even where there is none. I can't take Novaks victory from anyone because it is nonexistent it is an illusion but I am a Satan why listen to me right. An you think you have a right to judge me because one text I wrote for fun? and call my words venom(my God I must have really hurt you are you his uncle?I'm so so sorry don't cry please) You sir are obliviously having serious problems since Novaks victory is the best thing that happened to you lately(I wonder did you even know what tennis is before him?)
P.S. In the future learn to communicate trough dialogue not trough insults and false accusations you might learn something.

Since you registered particularly for this topic it looked as a familiar scenario. A regular blogger (there are actually couple of the Federer fans between them

) couldn't take it any more, so he registered another nick to lick his wounds a bit

.
However, now considering your writing style it's obvious you're just a kid (another Pocesta maybe

) who joined here to practice a bit blogging discussions and your English with grown-ups and also vent some frustration in the process coz your favorite Fedy lost (and not one of the long lasting "second Serbia" usual haters). Therefore, I can't be angry at you at all (even though I can't talk to you as to an adult). Somehow this "character reading" effort of yours was entertaining despite the fact you missed every single one of your assumptions

.

EDIT: Lol Maco prevari me, pomislih stvarno novi Pocesta se pojavio

.
Jel ovo eksperiment u komentarisanju il te jutros prvo bilo blam da komentarises pod sopstvenim nikom pa si morala da otvoris novi?

maca22 20:31 05.07.2011

Re: sarme

Covek u belom
EDIT: Lol Maco prevari me, pomislih stvarno novi Pocesta se pojavio .
Jel ovo eksperiment u komentarisanju il te jutros prvo bilo blam da komentarises pod sopstvenim nikom pa si morala da otvoris novi?

That's not me. Though I agree with what s/he said.

Jukie 06:42 05.07.2011

Sport je bezveze

Sport je bezveze a enciklopedije su zakon

background noise 08:09 05.07.2011

I just wrote a rather long comment

But than I thought, who cares anyway

behemot123 08:36 05.07.2011

Scot, Irish and German

"Novak Djokovic did NOT walk on the moon."

I almost heard you shouting USA, USA, Homer Simpson style.
But an American did, right? WRONG.

Neil Armstrong was born in Wapakoneta, Ohio, to Stephen Koenig Armstrong and Viola Louise Engel.[2][3] He is of Scots-Irish and German descent (From Wikipedia).

Nice patriotic try. Sorry. Mister Armstrong is almost a Serb

, asside the German part, ofcourse.

BTW, I missed the euforia about Novak. Had better things to do. My own how-to-survive-with-200 dinars-a-day life. But I dont mind people (mostly very young), having some fun on the street.
And when you talk, I feel like singing Marš na Drinu. Oh, and you can leave Serbia any time you want. One less marketing expert, or whatever, will not be a blow for our sad economy.

tyson 09:32 05.07.2011

Re: Scot, Irish and German

BTW, I missed the euforia about Novak. Had better things to do. My own how-to-survive-with-200 dinars-a-day life.

What kind of a freakin' job you have for 6,000 dinars/month?!?

Can't you really find anything else?!

behemot123 10:20 05.07.2011

Re: Scot, Irish and German

What kind of a freakin' job you have for 6,000 dinars/month?!?

Can't you really find anything else?!

You wouldnt believe

. The problem is, that is the only job I now how to do.

tyson 10:41 05.07.2011

Re: Scot, Irish and German

The problem is, that is the only job I now how to do.

I really can not believe this is true

behemot123 11:47 05.07.2011

Re: Scot, Irish and German

I really can not believe this is true

Thanks for the poverenju

mikimedic 09:05 05.07.2011

...

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.
No, I said. It is not.

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that some people were bombing other people from safety of the sky.
No, I said. It is not.

Colin_bgd 11:55 05.07.2011

Re: ...

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that some people were bombing other people from safety of the sky.
No, I said. It is not.

Perhaps Chris has already told this to his son. Perhaps he explained it to him in the same sentence by elaborating "from safety of the sky or from safety of the surrounding hills". Perhaps he also told him that usually "you reap what you sow". Perhaps he also said to him that whatever he becomes he should never be self-righteous, self-centred, cynical, misanthropic, I-Me-Mine bastard...

maca22 12:12 05.07.2011

Re: ...

Colin_bgd
he should never be self-righteous, self-centred, cynical, misanthropic, I-Me-Mine bastard...

mikimedic 12:57 05.07.2011

Re: ...

Perhaps Chris has already told this to his son.

yes, he did. that's why i quoted him twice.

"from safety of the sky or from safety of the surrounding hills". Perhaps he also told him that usually "you reap what you sow". Perhaps he also said to him that whatever he becomes he should never be self-righteous, self-centred, cynical, misanthropic, I-Me-Mine bastard...

how right both of you are.

i take my hat off to self-righteous chris and colin.

Colin_bgd 13:44 05.07.2011

Re: ...

how right both of you are.

Don't worry, Mickey, you will always be my favourite American...

jasminas 09:29 05.07.2011

I agree

Hi Chris, here is another Serb who agrees with you. I am very happy for Nole but, as someone has already mentioned, yesterday's circus was stupid and distasteful. I can understand why our folks enjoy (over)doing it though; what I cannot understand is why he is (over)doing it? Becoming world no. 1 in tennis and winning Wimby must be overwhelming, but really, does it have to be like it was last night?

tyson 09:39 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

does it have to be like it was last night?

OK, why not?

I mean, what bothers you people that much?

Live and let live, as long as that doesn't hurt anybody.

Or, as comrade Mao put it, let a thousand flowers bloom.

Atomski mrav 09:39 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

Well, who knows - maybe you would also do it if you won "Wimby" and fulfilled your biggest dream...

Anyway, celebrations for winning "Wimby" are common in this part of the world...

ivana23 09:46 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

jasminas
Becoming world no. 1 in tennis and winning Wimby must be overwhelming, but really, does it have to be like it was last night?

Dallas, June, 2011

link

maca22 10:18 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

tyson
does it have to be like it was last night?

OK, why not?

I mean, what bothers you people that much?

Live and let live, as long as that doesn't hurt anybody.

Or, as comrade Mao put it, let a thousand flowers bloom.

I agree.

ivon.i 10:41 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

Re: I agree
does it have to be like it was last night?

OK, why not?

I mean, what bothers you people that much?

their own impotence.

maca22 10:57 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

ivon.i
their own impotence.

Free associations... Please, do continue.

jasminas 11:21 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

OK, why not?

I mean, what bothers you people that much?

I guess that it bothers me because I feel that this exaggerated display of mass hysteria last night somehow marred his achievement which is GREAT in itself. I was delighted on Sunday evening - it is wonderful to see someone's dreams come true in front of your eyes. I wish he had gone to Sweden and come back only after the Davis Cup matches - I believe that we would have celebrated his victory much more gracefully.

njanja_de.manccini 14:29 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

Ivana, please but that's Dallas wining the NBA Championship!
That is different, they are allowed to celebrate like that!

"Dallas owner spent $110k in FOUR HOURS celebrating win - but saves taxpayers, offering to pay for victory parade himself"

tyson 15:01 05.07.2011

Re: I agree

Dallas, June, 2011

That's Texas, that doesn't count

one for the road 09:37 05.07.2011

Oh, Chris

You dared to think differently, now you have to leave! ;-)

mrdax 09:40 05.07.2011

Sports

I only watched the finals and I am glad that Novak won.I don't get that mass hysteria but that is how it is celebrated in Serbia.

Also, I am always perplexed when I see how many people tend to adore watching professional sport but they hate practicing any kind of sports.
I don't see anything bad in using someone's victory to promote your country and every country does that. We all know that Mika Pauli Häkkinen comes from Finland or Lance Armstrong from USA. It is also a matter of national pride. Imagine if Lance Armstorng switched from USA (Postal service) team to let's say team from Kazakhstan called Astana (oh no, that happened

)
What I don't understand is when people overestimate the importance of professional sport on their lives instead of focusing on their own physical activity.

edi-va 09:43 05.07.2011

˘

I suppose that your VIP references may have suffered some loss (in the meantime).

blue rider 10:08 05.07.2011

It's not easy being Novak

As most people I agree with a lot of stuff you wrote (mass hysteria, politicians, etc) except the introductory shit about Mahatma Gandi, Tesla and others.

I believe you when you tell us that you are devoted only to issues of utmost importance, only to those that have a worldwide effect, but be so kind and leave to the rest of us to be happy for his achievement. Although compared to yours it certainly cannot be viewed as magnificent, but what can ya do... Some people got it all.

lakipingvin 10:15 05.07.2011

Tiger Woods tilisibre??

Novak the Magnificent?

As friend of mine used to say"Its never question that's indiscreet only the answer."

Let it come to no one as a surprise: Novak Djokovic did NOT walk on the moon.

Nor did he cure tuberculosis, invent the wheel, pave the Information Superhighway, or single-handedly create the heavens and the earth in six days. To my knowledge (and I could be wrong), Mr. Djokovic was not responsible for the breaking down of Apartheid, the lifting of the Iron Curtain, or the forging of lasting peace in the Middle East.

He may, of course, have assassinated Bin Laden

Say what you mean and mean what you say but don't say it in a mean way.

I am aware that I shall not be making myself a lot of friends in my adopted homeland by nay-saying the apotheosis of Novak Djokovic.

I think wrong point of view but than again...Its not about having or not having friends but more of what works in the end.If return of Kaka to his favela in Brasil somehow inspire a teenager than narco-trafficer to say crime doesn't pay but computers do than i would say if same effect can have on only one single teenager in Serbia i think is well worth it all this madness...

Yesterday evening, on the eve of the great victory, my son asked me if it was normal that people were riding on the top of their cars.

In a country where when people practicing hard work you simple cant succeed, unless you are involved with some kind of partyocracy scheming, where richest and most influential people are marketing gurus, trange-frange specialist etc etc it is equal to miracle to see someone of us succeeding it this way as he did it but than again you wouldn't like that explanation to be heard from your son wouldn't you ?!

Srđan Mitrović 10:21 05.07.2011

:-)

Novak Djokovic did NOT walk on the moon.

pa nisu ni amerikanci

edi-va 10:30 05.07.2011

Re: :-)

Srđan Mitrović
Novak Djokovic did NOT walk on the moon.

pa nisu ni amerikanci

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