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samo nema dokaza da je postojao, što ne znači da nije. a murata je neko fakat rasporio, odnosno isti nije umro u svom krevetu okružen potomcima. sem ako od jeda što mu operacija na polju kosovu ne polazi za rukom nije izvršio seppuku ili mu je konce smrsio lično sin mu bajazit ilderim, pa je onda optužio navodnog srpskog nindžu.

sentinel - kad već (kao što vam ime kaže) - čuvate - ime lik i delo - ajde pročitajte ceo blog još jednom, razmislite o onome što je pisac hteo da kaže, pa se onda javite sa novim opservacijama.

što se pesme o smrti popa mila jovovića tiče, smatram da je ovim rambo amadeus, odnosno gradjanin pušić antonije, načinio antologijski pomak u domaćoj muzici. i istu iskreno obožavam.

a vaše koljeno, čojstvo i prijateljstvo sa mušovićima "niki" ne ugrožava niti osporava.

Ne vjerujem da vam nije nepoznato da i danas ima ljudi koji su spremni da se od klevete brane na sličan način.

tužbom & odštetom?

i još jednom da citiram sebe o'zgo

pušić antonija sam postavio gore jer sam fan pomenutog autora i načina na koji je uglazbio epsku & deseteračku pesmu o počivšem jovović milu.

veli Vladika Rade

Svat Turčin

Ilderime, svečev buzdovane,
malo li ti bi krstove vjere
međ' istokom i među zapadom
da istrčeš hata krilatoga,
damaskiju da krvi napojiš,
da najstrašnim postaneš šehitom,
no se diže da Fatimu ćeraš,
jedinicu svetoga Proroka?
Tu sagr'ješi Bogu i Proroku;
ko im skrivi, on im grdno plati!
Al' ti prosto dinovo mlijeko
kada Bosni salomi rogove,
kad sve pokla što ne posuneti ;
samo fakir ostavi fukaru
da nas služi, a pred krstom tuži.

Svat Crnogorac

Obiliću, zmaju ognjeviti,
ko te gleda, bliješte mu oči!
Svagda će te svetkovat junaci!
Mrcino nam krunu ne upušti
kad padiši stade pod vilice,
kada dinu zagazi u čorbu.
Sat te viđu na tvojega Ždrala
đe razgoniš kod šatora Turke.
Što će biti, ko će ugoditi?
Srb i Turčin ne slaže se nigda,
no će prije more oslačati.

Ova pesma nije deseterac.... klasican osmerac...

pardon, pardon...

shumska

e, Obiliću, izvini što te smaramo

imam amandman:

navodni srpski plemiću (za kojeg nemamo materijalnih dokaza da je postojao), a koji si prema predanju ubio murata - izvini što te smaramo

jer nepouzdana (zaista i najozbiljnije nije uvek pouzdana) wikipedia, pozivajući se na Emmert, "Milos Obilic and the Hero Myth." Journal of the North American Society for Serbian Studies 10 (1996), Emmert, "The Battle of Kosovo: Early Reports of Victory and Defeat." In Kosovo: Legacy of a Medieval Battle (1991). Repoduced online at De Re Militari. The Society for Medieval Military History. ^ Emmert cites V.V. Makušev, "Prilozi k srpskoj istoriji XIV i XV veka," Glasnik srpskog ucenog društva 32 (1871): pp. 174-5. ^ Ahmedi, ed. Olesnicki, "Turski izvori o Kosovskom bo ju." Glasnik skopskog naucnog drustva 14 (1934): 60-2, as cited by Emmert below.
^ Oruc, Tevarih I Al-i Osman, as cited by Emmert. ^ See also Roberta Strauss Feuerlicht, The Desperate Act: The Assassination of Franz Ferdinand at Sarajevo, p. 22 veli:

The earliest Serbian sources on the Battle of Kosovo, which generally favour the cult of Prince Lazar, do not mention Miloš or his assassination of the sultan.[1] The deed itself is first reported by Coluccio Salutati (died 1406), Chancellor of Florence, in his letter to King Tvrtko I of Bosnia (r. 1353-1391), dated 20 October 1389, on behalf of the Florentine Senate.[1][2] The killer is not named but he is described as one of twelve Serbian noblemen who managed to break through the Ottoman ranks:

"Fortunate, most fortunate are those hands of the twelve loyal lords who, having opened their way with the sword and having penetrated the enemy lines and the circle of chained camels, heroically reached the tent of Amurat [Murad] himself. Fortunate above all is that one who so forcefully killed such a strong vojvoda by stabbing him with a sword in the throat and belly. And blessed are all those who gave their lives and blood through the glorious manner of martyrdom as victims of the dead leader over his ugly corpse."[2][3]

The assassin's first appearance in Serbian sources is in the biography of Stefan Lazarevic, Lazar's son, by Constantine the Philosopher, written in the 1440s. The hero, still anonymous, is described as a man of noble birth whom envious tongues had sought to defame before the prince. To prove his loyalty and courage, he left the front line on the pretext of being a deserter, somehow grasped the opportunity to stab the sultan to death and was killed himself shortly afterwards.[1] The initial phase of ignominy and its redemption by a courageous plot of slaying the sultan are narrative ingredients which would become essential to the Serbian legend as it evolved in later times.[1]

The first author to refer to Murad's killer by his full name is Konstantin Mihailović, a Serbian Janissary from the village of Ostrovica, who wrote his Memoirs of a Janissary or Turkish Chronicle in c. 1497. In a passage intended to infer a moral lesson about disloyalty from the Serbian defeat at Kosovo, Mihailović identifies Miloš Kobilac as the knight who on the fateful last Friday of the battle slew Murad.[1]

The next time a name is given in the sources is three decades later, in 1530, when the {Slovene) monk Benedikt Kuripešić (Curipeschitz) wrote memoirs of his travels through the Balkan Peninsula. His visit to Murad's tomb in Kosovo Polje provides the occasion for the story of the knight whom he names Miloš Kobilović.[1]

Kuripešić elaborates on the humiliation and fall out favour which Miloš endured before the battle, his last dinner with Lazar and his nobles, his admittance to Murad's tent, the brutal murder and his own death on attempting to escape on horseback.[1] The monk, though not explicit about his sources, writes that Miloš was a celebrated figure in the popular traditions of Croats and "others in those regions", who sing about his heroic exploits on the border.[1]

According to the most popular version of the legend, during the first Battle of Kosovo, Miloš made his way into the Ottoman camp pretending that he wanted to surrender, and at an opportune moment forced his way into the Sultan's tent and stabbed him to death. Obilić was consequently "slashed to pieces" by the Sultan's bodyguards.[6]

ma dobra je ova i primerena je ali ja mnogo više volim onu oz'go (koja je primerena samo na prvu)...